The Mental Gains Podcast

A Complicated Grief Story


Verna and Matt explore grief with retired nurse, Nancy Oberhaus. Nancy shares her lifelong struggle with complicated grief over the death of the most important person in her life, a person with disabilities she cared for, for 13 years, who became her best friend and at times reason for living. Following her death, this intense grief haunted Nancy's life for almost 40 years. Nancy and Verna share advice and resources to aid in the healing process.

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Meet Your Host Verna Mullins

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Verna Mullins is the manager of the Connection Center, a psychosocial rehabilitation and peer support center in Bowling Green, Ohio. For over 22 years Verna has implemented and facilitated programming that includes mental health wellness, drug and alcohol prevention education, domestic violence advocacy, and peer support. She holds a dual BA in Psychology and Creative Writing from BGSU, is a licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor Assistant, and is a certified Peer Support Supervisor. Verna is a native of Toledo, Ohio. She is passionate about Spirituality and Holistic Healing.

Meet Your Host Matt Russell

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Matt Russell is a mental health advocate from Perrysburg, Ohio. He is an audio engineer and composer with 15+ years of professional recording studio and live audio production experience. He was an invitee at the Ableton Loop Conference in Berlin, Germany and was a finalist for the Ultra Music Festival “Made from Scratch” contest in 2015. Matt is a proud member of the sober community and is in recovery from drug addiction and alcoholism. 

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Voices Around Us® is supported in part by American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds allocated by the City of Toledo and the Lucas County Commissioners and administered by The Arts Commission.

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